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Economist expects recession to recede
late 2009
By Frank Ruggiero

Harry Davis, chief economist for
the N.C. Bankers Association, addresses the crowd at
last weeks Boone Area Chamber of Commerce Wake
Up Watauga breakfast. Photo by Frank Ruggiero
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Economic forecast: Cloudy through the year, with a chance of
sunshine toward the end.
Economist Harry Davis addressed a near capacity crowd at the
Boone Area Chamber of Commerces Wake Up Watauga breakfast
Friday, offering his thoughts on the recession, its triggers
and its future.
Davis is the chief economist of the N.C. Bankers Association,
past chairman of the chambers board of directors and professor
of finance at Appalachian State Universitys Walker College
of Business.
He posed the question, What is a recession? and
answered that the official economic state is determined by the
National Bureau of Economic Research, which determined this
recession started in December 2007. They look in the rearview
mirror to make all their decisions, Davis said.
The nations last two recessions, in 2001 and 1991, both
lasted eight months, Davis said, noting that in 2001, consumer
spending never even slowed.
The post-World War II average recession lasts 10.5 months,
he continued, and the nation has been in its present recession
for 13 months. The 1981 recession lasted 16 months, and
this ones going to last longer than that, he said.
Recessions, Davis explained, are part of an economic cycle,
meaning they cannot be prevented or stopped. Its
not possible, he said. We need to be patient and
realize were in part of the economic cycle we have to
have. Its not avoidable.
Consumers are reacting differently than in 2001, however.
Davis said that in the third quarter of last year, consumer
spending fell for the first time since 1991, the most significant
drop in the statistics 37-year history.
The United States has also suffered a drop in employment,
with the national unemployment rate at 7.2 percent in December,
a dramatic increase from 4.9 percent in January 2008.
Davis discussed the housing market, explaining how subprime
lending created homeowners who could not afford to own a home,
driving that number to an unsustainable level. Home prices grew
faster than incomes through 2006, Davis said, and, We
cant do that for very long before housing has to stop,
and thats exactly what happened.
About one in 10 homes in the United States is either delinquent
or in foreclosure, Davis said. To fix housing, I think
we should go at it from the employment side, Davis said,
suggesting cutting the payroll tax, extending benefits and driving
the mortgage rates down.
Davis took a turn to Wall Street, asking attendees if they
could remember when Wall Street would help sell securities,
rather than own them. He said firms started borrowing massive
amounts of money to buy securities, many of which turned out
to be subprime. At the end of 2007, Lehman Brothers had more
than $700 billion in assets and $23 billion in capital, resulting
in a leverage ratio of 30:1. If they hit a bump in the
road, theyre bankrupt, and thats exactly what happened
to them, Davis said.
Davis said while Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were supposed
to help underwrite mortgages, Congress and HUD suggested they
buy. As a result, 40 percent of mortgages they bought last year
were subprime, with a leverage ratio of $100 in assets to every
dollar in capital.
Where were the rating agencies? he asked. Ninety-five
percent of the revenue the rating agencies earn comes from the
companies whose securities they rate.
Davis said banks have taken a lot of criticism for lending
this money, with bank profitability at its lowest rate since
1990, as of the third quarter. Loan loss provisions are on the
rise, he said, and problem loans have increased.
Now banks arent exactly sure what capital requirement
is anymore, he said. Banks have got money to lend.
The trick is how to lend money when theres no one standing
in your lobby wanting to borrow.
Davis then addressed energy independence, saying that in the
present budget, there are all sorts of subsidies for solar and
wind energies, which he said could not possibly work when the
price of oil is $40 a barrel.
If youre in favor of alternative energy sources,
raise the gas tax, he said. Its the only thing
that got peoples attention
when the price when
to four bucks a gallon.
Davis addressed the economic stimulus package currently under
development, and said supporters must believe two things
the government can make use of underutilized assets and that
there is a multiplier effect, meaning, If the government
borrows a billion dollars, it must generate a billion dollars
of economic output.
He said certain parts of the stimulus package do not make
sense, such as funding to the National Endowment for the Arts
and funds to install solar panels on government buildings in
Seattle, Wash.
What were doing is raising the level of spending
to a new level, he said. Its not a stimulus
package; its just a government spending program.
Davis expects the recession to recede in the fourth quarter
of 2009, when the economy should start picking up.
He opened the floor to questions, with Wachovia market president
Jason Triplett asking Davis feeling on a stimulus package geared
toward creating jobs.
Davis said in the current bill, there is money for unemployment
benefits, and hed like to see that part strengthened.
We ought to help people who lost their jobs thats
what we ought to be doing, he said.
Realtor Todd Rice noted that the economy is in deflation now,
meaning inflation is inevitable. He asked Davis when he thought
that would happen, and Davis said he is concerned about inflation
toward the end of 2009 and all of 2010, as massive levels of
debt are raised.
The chambers next Wake Up Watauga will be hosted at
the Watauga Medical Center, with speaker Richard Sparks, CEO
of Appalachian Regional Healthcare System, discussing health
care in the High Country. The event is tentatively scheduled
for Feb. 27.
For more information on the Boone Area Chamber of Commerce,
call (828) 264-2225 or visit www.boonechamber.com on the Web.
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